Forgive me for being a bit of a "Debbie Downer", but I am dubious that the complaints of a couple of dozen radio hobbyists will change a decision of a government bureaucracy that is probably trying to save every penny that it can..

But, I guess that it doesn't hurt to try.

John

On 09/22/18, Arthur Delibert <radio75a3@msn.com> wrote:
> WWV has been broadcasting an outdated propagation report for several days, giving the solar flux as of September 18 and K Index as of 1200 on September 19. THIS MAY BE A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LISTENING, and if not, they’ll shut it down.
>
> We’ve had similar tests from other SW services prior to shutting down – for example, Radio Australia a couple years ago went off the air briefly, allegedly for xmtr maintenance; the response from listeners wasn’t strong enough, and they used that as evidence to shut down permanently.
>
> The NIST website gives an email address of: nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov<mailto:nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov <nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov>> Does anyone have other addresses for them?
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tell everyone that you know to sign it, even of they dont understand
completely why. Thank you.

Todd Skaine
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2018, 11:20 PM JOHN FISHER <jfisher8@cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Forgive me for being a bit of a "Debbie Downer", but I am dubious that the
> complaints of a couple of dozen radio hobbyists will change a decision of a
> government bureaucracy that is probably trying to save every penny that it
> can..
>
> But, I guess that it doesn't hurt to try.
>
>
> John
>
> On 09/22/18, Arthur Delibert <radio75a3@msn.com> wrote:
> > WWV has been broadcasting an outdated propagation report for several
> days, giving the solar flux as of September 18 and K Index as of 1200 on
> September 19. THIS MAY BE A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LISTENING, and if not,
> theyâll shut it down.
> >
> > Weâve had similar tests from other SW services prior to shutting down â
> for example, Radio Australia a couple years ago went off the air briefly,
> allegedly for xmtr maintenance; the response from listeners wasnât strong
> enough, and they used that as evidence to shut down permanently.
> >
> > The NIST website gives an email address of: nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov
> <mailto:nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov <nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov>> Does
> anyone have other addresses for them?
> >
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Thanks Glenn.
73Â,
Josà Ronaldo Xavier
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Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 01:44:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: Glenn Hauser <wghauser@yahoo.com>
To: Grupo Radioescutas <radioescutas@yahoogrupos.com.br>, WOR
 <wor@groups.io>, "hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com"
 <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, <WOR@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [WOR] JRX Logs: Setembro 21, 2018.
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As I have been reporting, the collision on 11860 is between RHC and Radio Marti, not RHC and itself. At this time, RHC in Portuguese, RM in of course Spanish. 73, Glenn Hauser

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Subject: [WOR] JRX Logs: Setembro 21, 2018.
To: "Grupo Radioescutas" <radioescutas@yahoogrupos.com.br>, "WOR" <wor@groups.io>, "hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>
Date: Friday, September 21, 2018, 10:57 PM

JRX Logs: Setembro 21,
2018.

Receptor: Tecsun S-2000.

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Forgive me for being a bit of a "Debbie Downer", but I am dubious that the complaints of a couple of dozen radio hobbyists will change a decision of a government bureaucracy that is probably trying to save every penny that it can..

But, I guess that it doesn't hurt to try.

John

On 09/22/18, Arthur Delibert <radio75a3@msn.com> wrote:
> WWV has been broadcasting an outdated propagation report for several days, giving the solar flux as of September 18 and K Index as of 1200 on September 19. THIS MAY BE A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LISTENING, and if not, they’ll shut it down.
>
> We’ve had similar tests from other SW services prior to shutting down – for example, Radio Australia a couple years ago went off the air briefly, allegedly for xmtr maintenance; the response from listeners wasn’t strong enough, and they used that as evidence to shut down permanently.
>
> The NIST website gives an email address of: nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov<mailto:nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov <nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov>> Does anyone have other addresses for them?
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At that point, tell WWV that you know they're broadcasting wrong data.

Then you tell the NIST Director, Undersecretary of Commerce for Standards and Technology Walter Copan that something is wrong at the station. His top priority is said to be cybersecurity. Don't geek out but explain why this WWV falls under "Critical Infrastructure & Key Resources". He doesn't have a public-facing e-mail.

Lather, Rinse, Repeat with Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross. He's dealing with quite a bit about Census 2020 right now. KISS is operative.

General NIST contact form is here:
https://www.nist.gov/about-nist/contact-us

General contact page for the Commerce Department is here:
https://www.commerce.gov/page/contact-us

If you think that this is an instance of Fraud, Waste, and/or Abuse by the folks at NIST you probably should contact the departmental Office of Inspector General who can take "Internal Affairs" types of action. Their website is here:
https://www.oig.doc.gov/pages/default.aspx

And if you feel that WWV/WWVH/WWVB fall into the category of "Critical Infrastructure & Key Resources", apparently Homeland Security has multiple avenues to make suggestions to them such as perhaps having their Office of Emergency Communications take those stations over. Check out those possibilities here:
https://www.dhs.gov/contact-us

(Stephen Michael Kellat, KC8BFI
Ashtabula, Ohio, UT Sept 23, WOR iog via DXLD)

The outdated prop info still airing on WWV at :18 past UT Sept 23; also at :45 via WWVH? (gh)

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On Sat, 9/22/18, Arthur Delibert <radio75a3@msn.com> wrote:

Subject: [HCDX] WWV: Are they testing us?
To: "Topband@contesting.com" <Topband@contesting.com>, "hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>
Date: Saturday, September 22, 2018, 6:40 PM

WWV has been broadcasting an outdated
propagation report for several days, giving the solar flux
as of September 18 and K Index as of 1200 on September
19. THIS MAY BE A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LISTENING,
and if not, theyâll shut it down.

Weâve had similar tests from other SW
services prior to shutting down â for example, Radio
Australia a couple years ago went off the air briefly,
allegedly for xmtr maintenance; the response from listeners
wasnât strong enough, and they used that as evidence to
shut down permanently.

The NIST website gives an email address
of:Â nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov<mailto:nist.radio@boulder.nist.gov>Â
Does anyone have other addresses for them?

Art Delibert, KB3FJO

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