[HCDX] Re: XEBAL 1470
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[HCDX] Re: XEBAL 1470



Hi Dario,
I am even more surprised by your note.
How can you going on, standing up a fake ( italian) dxer like Bellabarba,and
the Jazz Trio Cotroneo,Oliva and Lawendel (great friends and very good Dxers,indeed)
at the same time?
Regards,
Giampaolo Galassi


At 19.38 07/04/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Dear friends,
>
>I am quite surprised you utilize Hard-core dx to attack the hobby activity in Italy, I found this message sent By Osterholm very much offensive and based on STUPID observations, I hope no more messages like this will be permitted by moderator Risto Kotalampi, on the contrary I will surely leave Hard-Core dx family.
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>Best regards,
>
>Dario Monferini
>
>PLAYDX ITALY.
>
>
>
>
>DARIO MONFERINI 
>Via Davanzati 8, IT-20158 Milano, ITALY 
>http://listen.to/playdx 
>>From: Jan-Erik.Osterholm@xxxxxxxxxx 
>>To: hard-core-dx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>Subject: [HCDX] XEBAL 1470 
>>Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:09:20 +0300 
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>>I am extremely surprised of the claimed logging of XEBAL 1470 by some 
>>Italian DX-ers. First, the mentioned dates were extremely poor towards 
>>the Western Hemisphere all over Scandinavia that should be in a much more 
>>favourable situation to receive signals over the Atlantic compared to Italy. 
>>During the dates mentioned the activity of listeneras at least in Finland 
>>was intense. Nobody noted anything more than poor conditions originating 
>>also from 
>>the fact of very unfavorable geomagnetic activities. 
>> 
>>1470? CPN has been a powerhouse in the Southern Parts of Finland during the 
>>last month. At this time of the year - early April - it is more or less 
>>impossible 
>>to hear Mexicans on AM in Scandinavia, and should be even more impossible in 
>>Italy. During the claimed dates CPN was very poor in Scandinavia. 
>> 
>>On the above mentioned dates April 1-3 when XEBAL was claimed to be heard 
>>between 0210-0310 UTC the grayline in northern Italy occurs between 
>>0357-0501 the latter being the sunrise time in Milano. Very typically - and 
>>almost exclusively - rare trans-atlantic catches during springtime is 
>>received exactly during the grayline period. The claimed loggin was thus 
>>received during a very unfavourable time which make it even more suspicious. 
>> 
>>XEBAL is transmitting with an omnidirectional pattern and with 500 watts 
>>during the time claimed. Taking into account the 1470 stations like CPN, R 
>>Huancayo, Vibración, Latina, the Colombians, etc would make a reception of 
>>XEBAL extremely unlikely especially taking into account that R Formula 
>>México DF with 50 kW is the Mexican power house here. 
>> 
>>After almost 40 years of experience in LA-DX and having heard more than 80 
>>mexicans in Lemmenjoki, Finland I would argue that this claimed Italian 
>>logging either is a severe mis-interpretation, a bad April joke or a result 
>>of a total lack of DX-experince. Come on boys! 
>> 
>> 
>>Jan-Erik Österholm 
>>Östravagen 18 
>>FIN-06100 Borga 
>>Finland 
>> 
>>e-mail: jan-erik.osterholm@xxxxxxxxxx 
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