Re: About Radio Uganda and other cares (HI)

[Dan Henderson <dandan2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Robert:

I agree with you....it is a personal thing...and don't take anything I
wrote as a flame...it was only intended to be informative, not inflamatory.
 Regarding the variance of several kilohertz, I think these things SHOULD
be reported...reporting changes of 10's of hz?  No...The transmitter
variances of 10-20 Hz is easily understandable.  Shifting 1-3 kHz as some
Peruvian stations do?  This is understandable because the equipment may be
in disrepair...but it should be reported because it impacts listening/DXing
attempts.

But again, that is my opinion...and not meant to incite others to
necessarily always share my view...That is the beauty of a forum as this.  

I do mean the compliment...This is good work, and you should keep at it.


Dan Henderson

At 04:11 PM 2/14/97 +0100, you wrote:
>This is a message from Robert Joosten <nl11891@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Hello Dan !
>
>>Do you believe that the stations care to know their frequency to the
>>nearest ten hertz?  The answer is NO.  They probably don't even have a
>>frequency meter that reads that accurately.  It looks impressive in items
>>on hard-core-dx, but it really isn't...The transmitters probably aren't
>>that stable, and neither is your ear able to hear down to the nearest ten
>>hz.  Most people's hearing stops about 20 hz.  Therefore, reporting these
>>details are probably not representative of what others may hear.  
>
>Well, that's your opinion. I find it an interesting thing to log.
>A few weeks ago, a dutch DX-er reported that in the morning the freq varied
>plus 20 kHz above the listed freq, and in the eving minus 40 or so.
>Temperature in-stabability ?
>
>I like these details a lot. It's more interesting than to log from what
>artist they play the music. But that's a very personal thing most people
>don't share with me. Maybe, in future, I could write 3340,12 or only 3340v ??
>
>That's the reason why I posted this reply via the list:
>
>**  Anyone else's opinion about this ?
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>**  Is it necesarry to log so precisely as possible ?
>    (And if you do, also state your receiver ofcourse, maybe an particular
>receiver has got an 'natural' variation)
>
>Secondly: THAT WAS the frequency they broadcasted, and not 3340 zero beat.
>And: Yes I know they do NOT have a meter there (prop.). From what I've read
>the past years, technical managers don't care. The receivers which the
>listeners use in the country, aren't that stable to even note that minor
>"off-set" - because that's wat it is -, on behalf a few. So why bother ?
>
>>The phenomena that you mentioned tho, is interesting.  Have you gotten any
>>replies that would explain it?
>
>No, not yet. IF they come. But Mark Veldhuis (NL), also noted that RTV
>Malienne (4835 and 4783), shifted a few kiloCycles an time ago.
>Maybe this is an usally thing within Africa at certain stations.
>
>Maybe, R Uganda remarked that the transmitter on 3340 wasn't good enough for
>some reason.
>Or they want 3 channels on SW. 
>I Have no idea. It's strange to keep up with 3340. 
>They've got thus 3 transmitters or transmit-facilities ! (If the carrier on
>3340 really originate from Uganda; I cannot check directions)
>
>>Keep up the good work.
>Thank You. I see that as an comliment.
>
>Please don't think this reply is a direct flame.
>Some people only listen, other collect QSL's, study propagation etc etc.
>And I find it interesting to log the more technical site (if you know what I
>mean).
>But maybe you're right: just type in 3340 and keep the rest (3,34012) for my
>logbook.
>
>
>Like to wish you Good DX !
>
>Robert Joosten.
>Another member of BDXC...
>
>
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