Re: [HCDX]: R.San Marino Intl. once again...

[Dan Henderson <dandan2@xxxxxxxxx>]

Willi:

You are right, of course.  The issue is, though, just what you mentioned...
I remember a time back in 1970 when the Viet Cong Radio was broadcasting
from Cambodia...Not too hard to hear here in the USA.  Verified it via
their Paris office...They mentioned it was in Cambodia...Therefore it was a
valid QSL for Cambodia, even tho there was no "official approval" for the
station, only a tacit one.

The station later moved across the river to S. Vietnam.  It then was
considered a proper station to verify for S. Vietnam.  The station surely
did not have the permission of the S. Vietnamese government...but it was
there....

You can come up with many many examples of unique cases...I don't know if
the S. Marino site was used...And I guess we'll never know.  It possibly
wasn't..they surely claimed it, tho..and I am one to claim that the
Government's "OK" doesn't hold water...Just look at the Pirate scene in the
70's with Caroline and R. Nordsee International...

All it means is that people have their own opinions, and I am surely not
one to try and dictate mine on someone else...But the important thing is
that "people are talking and discussing it"..That, in itself, makes this
discussion all worthwhile.

Dan Henderson sends...


At 10:37 PM 1/15/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>Obviously, there is controversy with this approach.  The ARRL and other ham
>>organizations sponsor DXpeditions to rocks in the ocean...just to get a new
>>country...therefore this is exactly opposite the philosophy discussed.
>>Hopefully, if a station, even tho how small, how temporary, is broadcasting
>>for listening pleasure, the location of the transmitter should constitute
>>where the station was broadcasting from!!  The studio doesn't matter--take
>>some of the relays by VOA, BBC, etc.  Of course, everyone is entitled to
>>his own opinion...
>>
>>Controversy is always fun, especiallly in this hobby.
>
>Hams are usually counting their verified countries by the DXCC list. A
>ham_s QSL from a country he does not have an official permission to
>transmit from is worthless if you follow DXCC rules. So your example is not
>the best argument for counting a pirate QSL for a new country.
>But there are two different questions: How sure one can be that the Tx is
>located in San Marino at all, and: Do you want to add QSLs from official
>broadcasters, pirate stations and maybe Utility stations and hams (did I
>forget something?) to one total sum of countries?
>
>Of course, it is a hobby. So everybody is free to decide whether he counts
>a RSMI-QSL as a new country for himself or not. The same is true for clubs
>and their rules for diplomas.
>
>I remember that several years ago, when I wanted to get a diploma for a
>certain number of verified countries which had to be counted by the ADDX
>country list, I waited until I had two countries more than necessary, as I
>for myself did not want to accept the nonsense of dividing both the US and
>the USSR into two parts (east - west; the now valid EDXC list counts
>"correctly").
>
>BTW: Counting the location of transmitters (which I do) instead of studios
>sometimes means having less stations: For example the new stations on 828
>and 1224 kHz from the Netherlands are transmitting from locations I already
>got verified by former stations...
>
>73s,
>Willi
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